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Topic: ERP Software

1.  ERP Software

Posted 8 days ago
Hello -

We are a GC with revenues under $100m. Recently, we have decided to move to a new ERP system and are choosing between the following:

  • Spectrum (Dexter Chaney)
  • Foundation
  • Viewpoint
If money was no object, what software would you recommend that is best for "back office" functions? Project Management functions?

I realize there have been multiple discussions on this, simply wanted to gain any new input.

Thanks!


2.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 8 days ago
Arthur,

We have just gone through our search for a new ERP system, and we evaluated the three systems on your list as well as several others.  If money is no object, then I would suggest you take a look at the most robust system we found and take a look at Coins.  Coins provides greater flexibility, ease of use and a magnificent access to data.  If you have any interest or any questions, please let me know, and I will give you the contact information for our sales rep.

Best of Luck,


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George Fernandez
Controller
Ermco, Inc.
Indianapolis IN
(317) 423-3873
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3.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 7 days ago
I would suggest Viewpoint.  I've worked with it for over 10 years, both as a controller for a $350M regional GC and a subcontractor.  It is very flexible and integrates well with Textura and other third-party software.  Also, Viewpoint just bought D&C, so who know what Spectrum's life expectancy will be.

Good luck with your software conversion.

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Peter Lowry CPA, CCIFP
Chief Financial Officer
Charter Mechanical Contractors, Inc.
Portland OR
(503) 806-0730
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4.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 7 days ago
Hi Arthur,

I would suggest at least adding Sage 300 Construction and Real Estate to your list for review. It has a robust reputation with a large customer base building projects of all sizes. And there are lots of new mobile capabilities being added.

There are lots of modules and add-ons that give you access to very robust estimating, BIM, takeoff plus mobile services, project management, time management and more.

Take a look at Construction Management Software - Sage CRE | Sage US  or let me know and I can connect you to get more info.


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Phil Bride BSEE, MBA
Business Management and Sage Consultant
RRC
Beaverton OR
(503) 753-9971
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5.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 7 days ago
Each of us will have our favorite.  If money is no object, then I would agree with previous gentleman, that COINS, should at least be evaluated.  It is very robust, very good support.  I have worked with cos. as big as 500 million and small as 10 million.  Viewpoint, Coins , JD Edwards, ComputerEase, Microsoft Dynamics SL and Timberline(Sage ?) are all applications I have used.  Coins has been , in my opinion, the best for the GC Construction, Sub-Contractor.

Bryan Duncan

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Bryan Duncan BS ACCOUNTING, CPA
Controller
Batterson Highway and Road
Sugar Land TX
(281) 795-3948
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6.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 6 days ago
​All:

Our company is also in the process of vetting a new ERP system.  We have 6 months of time and countless hours invested in a thorough analysis of our existing system (SAGE 300 CRE) and other ERP solutions.  I would recommend avoiding Sage - especially if your business decision is motivated by: (1) mobility; (2) production tracking; and (3) collaboration.  Sage is not performing well for us.  Its Bolt-On product model (e.g., Office Connector, My Assistant, Timberscan) rarely works as advertised.  So-called "standard product features" do not work in our environment and countless hours vested in consultants, training, and IT support have resulted in an unsustainable web of products bridging various gaps.  Its disappointing at best.  Following our research, Viewpoint emerged as the best fit for our business.  We are currently completing the ROI process to determine whether the cost justifies the investment.

I am happy to discuss  this further with anyone who wants to have the discussion.  Call me at the number below if you are interested.

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Joshua Brotemarkle
CFO | General Counsel
LS Black Constructors, Inc.
St. Paul MN
(651) 789-2902
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7.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 6 days ago

This response is mainly to the recent posts of Joshua and Arthur.  We are a longtime user of Sage 300 and are currently using most of the "bolt on" features that Joshua mentioned, including office connector, timberscan and my assistant.  We added these products, along with some self-developed options that tie in thru the backdoor of ODBC, over the course of about 10 years, and have had success using each.  I can definitely see where you could have some extreme frustration trying to get all of them up and running in an overlapping timeframe.  Each is finicky and reliant on specific ODBC settings, settings and versions within Microsoft office, and each can have performance issues linking with Sage.  Most of my integrations work mainly because I keep my citrix Office version several years behind to avoid Microsoft conflicts.

We are also in the process of evaluating different packages, as we have shifted from Sage's PJ module to Procore as our primary project management tool.  From what we have seen, I think that Spectrum is the most friendly option out there if you are looking to be more mobile and looking for flexibility, although I am curious to see how the transaction with Viewpoint last week impacts the development of the program.  Viewpoint is likely second in that regards, and it is my understanding that they are trying to work to be more web-based.  Sage has always been a reliable "stable" platform for us, but it has seemed to wither  on the vine for the past 5-6 years and these other packages have passed it by.  I know they are working to make some major platform changes, but I have never seen them adapt and move quickly enough in the +/-17 years I have been working with them.

If I were starting from scratch today and had the budget to afford it, Spectrum would be my choice. 

 

R. Patrick Lloyd  | Chief Financial Officer
Golden Construction, LLC
2212 First Avenue South
Birmingham, AL 35233
www.goldenconstruction.com
P.  205.327.6617  |  C. 205.283.8936  |   F. 205.327.6667

 

  

 






8.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 5 days ago





9.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 3 days ago

I have to agree with most of the comments about Sage. We've been using it for twenty years and are wedded to it, at this point. The cost and benefit of switching is not something I can sell to myself, but if I were making the software choice at this date, I would not choose Sage. From what I've seen Viewpoint looks pretty good.

 

 

Timothy J. Mickunas, CPA, CCIFP, CRIS

Certified Construction Financial Professional

Chief Financial Officer

(956) 686-9573

 

D Wilson Construction Company

An employee owned company

P.O. Box 3455

McAllen, TX 78502-3455

 

 

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10.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 2 days ago

We were on Sage Timberline Office (300) for years.  We switched to Sage Timberline Enterprise, which was not a good program.  When they finally decided to stop putting money into it 4 years later, they pulled the plug and we were forced to switch to a new software.  We evaluated many programs including Dexter & Chaney's Spectrum, Viewpoint, Foundation and even considered returning to Sage 300.  After a lengthy process, we chose Spectrum and have been very happy with the results for the Accounting Dept. and Project Accounting.  I think it could be stronger for Project Management, but they are working on it.  I believe Viewpoint may be stronger in the Project Management side, but they are also more expensive.  I heard that Viewpoint just bought Dexter & Chaney so I would expect more improvements in both programs.

 

Debbie Russell

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11.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 2 days ago

Sage is investing in a multi-faceted re-architecting project for Sage 300 CRE (formerly Timberline Office) product.  This will ultimately result in multiple mobile services, a new web based user interface and a SQL database backend to Sage's flagship 300 CRE product.  The upcoming release of 17.1 from Sage CRE, along with its mobile projects service, is the first delivery of the re-architecting project.  A full SQL reporting capability will be delivered this summer along with the first field mobility apps for project management.  This adds to the mobility already in market with Sage Service Operations and Sage Construction Project Center, both cloud based field operation systems.

 

Jon Witty                                                                         Dennis Stejskal

Vice President, General Manager                                    Vice President – Strategy

Sage Construction and Real Estate                                  Sage Construction and Real Estate



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Dennis Stejskal
Vice President - Strategy
Sage
Beaverton OR
(503) 439-5133
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12.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 6 days ago
​If the decision criteria is low cost and ease of use, then I would suggest Foundations.  We have used Foundations for several years with multiple companies and intercompany transactions. Foundations does not do a great job in terms of consolidating multiple companies in the same database.  However, I have found that it is very easy to use and the cost of implementation would be much less compared to your other considerations.
Pete

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Pete Sacripanti CPA
CFO
GeoConstructors, Inc.
Purcellville VA
(703) 771-9847
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13.  RE: ERP Software

Posted 3 days ago
I would invite you to evaluate RedTeam Software. We are a Florida base complete project management/ construction accounting software with a robust mobile platform. Because the software integrates project accounting and construction management it effectively eliminates the need for expensive accounting software. We even have clients with over $200m in revenue running on QBO/ RedTeam seamlessly.
Since the software was built by general contractors out of need our clients often comment on how intuitive to solution is and they love how affordable we are too.

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Fred Guitton
Chief Revenue Officer
Redteam Software
Orlando FL
(407) 781-1500
fguitton@RedTeamSoftware.com
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