This response is mainly to the recent posts of Joshua and Arthur. We are a longtime user of Sage 300 and are currently using most of the "bolt on" features that Joshua mentioned, including office connector, timberscan and my assistant. We added these products, along with some self-developed options that tie in thru the backdoor of ODBC, over the course of about 10 years, and have had success using each. I can definitely see where you could have some extreme frustration trying to get all of them up and running in an overlapping timeframe. Each is finicky and reliant on specific ODBC settings, settings and versions within Microsoft office, and each can have performance issues linking with Sage. Most of my integrations work mainly because I keep my citrix Office version several years behind to avoid Microsoft conflicts.
We are also in the process of evaluating different packages, as we have shifted from Sage's PJ module to Procore as our primary project management tool. From what we have seen, I think that Spectrum is the most friendly option out there if you are looking to be more mobile and looking for flexibility, although I am curious to see how the transaction with Viewpoint last week impacts the development of the program. Viewpoint is likely second in that regards, and it is my understanding that they are trying to work to be more web-based. Sage has always been a reliable "stable" platform for us, but it has seemed to wither on the vine for the past 5-6 years and these other packages have passed it by. I know they are working to make some major platform changes, but I have never seen them adapt and move quickly enough in the +/-17 years I have been working with them.
If I were starting from scratch today and had the budget to afford it, Spectrum would be my choice.
R. Patrick Lloyd | Chief Financial Officer Golden Construction, LLC 2212 First Avenue South Birmingham, AL 35233 www.goldenconstruction.com P. 205.327.6617 | C. 205.283.8936 | F. 205.327.6667
I have to agree with most of the comments about Sage. We've been using it for twenty years and are wedded to it, at this point. The cost and benefit of switching is not something I can sell to myself, but if I were making the software choice at this date, I would not choose Sage. From what I've seen Viewpoint looks pretty good.
Timothy J. Mickunas, CPA, CCIFP, CRIS
Certified Construction Financial Professional
Chief Financial Officer
D Wilson Construction Company
An employee owned company
P.O. Box 3455
McAllen, TX 78502-3455
We were on Sage Timberline Office (300) for years. We switched to Sage Timberline Enterprise, which was not a good program. When they finally decided to stop putting money into it 4 years later, they pulled the plug and we were forced to switch to a new software. We evaluated many programs including Dexter & Chaney's Spectrum, Viewpoint, Foundation and even considered returning to Sage 300. After a lengthy process, we chose Spectrum and have been very happy with the results for the Accounting Dept. and Project Accounting. I think it could be stronger for Project Management, but they are working on it. I believe Viewpoint may be stronger in the Project Management side, but they are also more expensive. I heard that Viewpoint just bought Dexter & Chaney so I would expect more improvements in both programs.
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